Interview With Guruji 2

Seeker: Sometimes I don’t feel connected to this life. Do
I have a better purpose in this life? What to do with my
emotions?
Guruji Sri Vast: Take, for example, a coconut tree who wants
to give mangos instead of coconuts because the coconut
tree sees that mangos are popular. “My longtime wish is to
give mangos instead of coconuts.” Now it can neither produce
mangos nor coconuts. If you ask that coconut tree it
will say, “Well, you know, my higher purpose is to produce
mangos.” The entire life it will wait for that ‘one day’ when
it can give mangos. But this day never comes. What are you
doing? “I am meditating.” For what? “So that one day I will
produce mangos.” This is the case for many people waiting
for that ‘one day’.
We are all domesticated
beings. Our ego resists to
accept it. Today I saw a
beautiful monkey that was
dressed. It is domesticated.
It is chained, dressed nicely.
It is not a monkey anymore,
it lost its monkey-hood, its
monkey-ness. When the
trainer, the fellow who holds
the monkey says ‘dance’, this
monkey starts to dance. Then
this monkey is not a monkey
anymore and it also hopes
that one day it will be enlightened. This monkey also hopes
that one day it can be free, that one day it will not need to
dance according to anything, and that no one will be there
to control it. Every monkey that is trained and domesticated

is waiting for enlightenment. ‘One day’ it wants to be free; it
wants to experience the monkey-ness again.
Just like the monkey we are all highly domesticated. Every
detail of you is domesticated. It is very natural for you to feel
that you are not right, that something is wrong and that you
want to get out of that. You want to become free. You want
to realize, you want to be enlightened. You want to experience
this Divine. Become aware of it.
Whatever philosophy you follow, whatever logic you have,
whatever sadhanas you practice, it must liberate you; it must
expand you beyond yourself. What does that mean? It is not
‘what you think’ or ‘what you feel’. It must help you to experience
the existence, to experience yourself in everything.
If you go to the temple don’t stand and think, just surrender
there. Don’t say, “It’s a dogma.” No, just enjoy that. If you
go to the church, don’t say that you are not a Christian. No,
become a Christ. If you go to a disco, don’t say anything,
get dancing! Loose yourself. Experience beyond yourself,
because what you call ‘yourself’ is nothing but the imprint
created in you by your life experiences. The books you read,
the masters you met, the schools you went to, the parents
you had, the friends you had, your neighbors, your religion;
everyone gave you some information about who you are.
Sometimes you are comfortable, sometimes you are not
comfortable. So for me your emotions are not valid, because
they are not permanent. You yourself are not permanent and
your feelings are not permanent. Your pain is not permanent;
your stories are not permanent.
When Andreas was ten years old he was fighting for a
bicycle. When he did not get that bicycle, he had certain
emotions, certain experiences, certain feelings. At the age
of 20 he wanted to have a girlfriend. When he did not get
that girl, he had certain emotions, a certain experience and
certain feelings. Now he wants something else. I don’t see
the difference. It keeps on changing. But now, what do you
think about the bicycle for which you were crying when you
were ten years old? You ‘don’t know’. See, in the same way
what you are now fighting against and what you are crying
for in 10 years you will say, “I don’t know.”
Any solution for the illusion is also illusion. Everyone tries to
find solutions for the maya (Sanskrit: illusion). Somehow you
are entertaining all your ‘my feelings and my emotions.’ In
our Ashram we have a mantra: “So what! ‘I feel like this.’ So
what!” You have every right to feel like that. I am not asking
you to deny whatever you feel, but I am telling you not to
make something out of that.
You say that you feel something but actually you have no
idea what you are feeling. If a person asks you, “How do you
feel?” Then you think about how you feel. “How do I feel?”
Then you explain what you are feeling. You are thinking what
you are feeling. Based on the thinking you are explaining.
Once you explain, you start to feel your explanation.
You never say, “I feel mambo-dambo”, because you have
not created the meaning of this mambo-dambo. So let us
say mambo-dambo means you feel lonely after Saturday
evening. Now a person asks, “How are you?” If you say,
“Mambo-dambo,” you start to feel that, because now you
have created this mambo-dambo. You feel what you have
created. Try to understand; actually
you have no idea who is feeling
that. With your past knowledge,
with what you have red, collect,
heard, seen; through that
past knowledge you are trying
to define your experiences. Has
anyone seen an angel in a black
dress, driving a motorcycle and
drinking chai? No. All of you have
seen angels in a white dress and
flying. Most of them are female,
isn’t it? How do you know the angel
was in a white dress? Because
you read it. All your religions taught that the angels wear
white dresses, they are mostly female and they fly. If your
religion taught that angels are crawling on the floor, then in
your meditation you will see angels crawling on the floor.